RCMP Urging for Internet Spy Law

Published on Apr 9, 2007   //  News Worthy

RCMP LogoI was reading an article in the province today that sparked my interest and how it could affect hosting and hosting customers.

The article says…

“The RCMP has urged the Harper government to reintroduce a controversial bill that would force Internet service providers to turn over personal information on subscribers, arguing the lack of such legislation has already had “serious consequences” on investigations, newly released documents show.”

Basically what this means if the law is passed is that the RCMP would be able to seize customer details of anyone they want without going through a judge or showing just cause for seizing the information.

If this scares you then you should contact your local MLA to discuss it with them and let them know your thoughts on the issue. Personally I do understand why the RCMP want the law passed but I also feel that we already have procedures in place that do not stumble on civil liberties.

What are your thoughts?

6 Comments to “RCMP Urging for Internet Spy Law”

  • uhhh?

    They had this power before….

    But now CSIS has it.

  • The bill was never passed and RCMP must go through a Judge to get these details at this time. This bill would mean they could stop at an ISP and grab any contact details they want w/o any justification.

  • What, are they getting to lazy to go to court and get a warrant for the information? I mean, I have nothing to hide, but, these systems are put in place for a reason. To protect the privacy of Canadian citizens, whether they’ve committed a criminal offense or not.

    What are they going to get from ISPs, if people are illegally downloading music? Wow, if they charged everyone for illegally downloading music, are courts would never be able to close, and have a waiting list. Maybe get my address from them, and how much I use the Internet, wow, because that’s important. Find out if you’re planning a terrorist attack, ya, right, like they’ll find that out.

    What’re they going to get from hosts? My name, address, phone number? The government has all that information already. What my sites are? Wow, I’m scared now, because they’re going to find incriminating evidence on there.

    Try to catch SPAM, Phishing, and illegal sites? Most of those are located in the US and most hosts take care of them quickly.

    Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to get ISPs and Hosts to file a report (via a online form, for convenience :P ) when something suspicious comes up that needs Police assistance to solve?

    If you can’t tell, most of this comment is sarcasm. :P

  • CSIS does the intelligence operations….and RCMP does the law enforcement.

    “Both Commissions had recommended that the security intelligence functions be separated from the RCMP and that a civilian service be formed to carry out those functions.”(csis)

    http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/en/publications/commentary/com85.asp

    RCMP had this power before. but now CSIS has it.
    And it should stay that way

    In other words if this bill doesn’t pass…it doesn’t mean that csis cant do it.. it just means that RCMP as to go through courts.

    So much mistrust amongst them. which makes me mistrust them, even more.

    I agree with Matt. have fun going through hours of online game play logs, and boring online work logs. lol.
    Hey at least they will get a laugh during their hours and hours of boring log surfing.

    Finally if it does pass. its a sad day for Canadians.

  • It’s not about what they can find or what they have to look through to find it. It is simply about our right to privacy being taken away from us. This is not cool at all.

    Something else to think aboutis people hacking into your wireless and using your IP address to pull off illegal activities, you would have no defense against being blamed for anything. This is completely unacceptable.

    If this passes, the RCMP could go on fishing trips through logs to find some insignificant indication of a remotely possible crime without cause and then try to build a case around it, if they can’t make a case, the individuals reputation could still be ruined in the name of what?

    This is completely against what this country is supposed to stand for. What will be next? Knocking on any door at random and saying we are searching this house, step aside.

  • There are private and public persona for everyone, which have different needs. What it seems to me that the number of places, which stay truly private decreases as the number of wireless connection grows,such as observation cameras, camera phones etc. Thus a private connection for consumers may be sold at premium prices in a near future. On the other hand technological ability to trace phone and online data conversations using devices similar to Carnivore can not be discarded completely, especially taking into consideration context sensitive searches that are possible with Google technology.
    Where does the invasion of privacy starts? I think what Trudeau said a long time ago is still true today:”The State has no business in the homes of the people.”